there's a training program that the federal government sponsored and they were trained, it protects the airplane, not one incident of a problem. >> let me just show, i've been saying that this is feel-good legislation, that there's motion, a the lot of motion, and lot of rhetoric, a lot of props being used, exploittation of a tragedy. in new york, they passed a law this week and i'm going to put up on the screen a picture. two guns, the exact same gun, exact same caliber of bullet, and one has a pistol grip, the other does not. one is banned, one is legal. now, that's the type of thing that makes me say, these guys have no clue what they're talking about. by the way, would anybody here use the pistol grip on their rifle, anyway? nobody would, it's cosmetic, wouldn't even use it. >> sean, i'll say there's one particular pistol i purchased when i went backpacking in alaska, my wife wanted something other than a whistle to protect myself from the grizzly bears, and that weapon would be banned under governor cuomo's proposal and some of the proposals that are going forward in congress.